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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Des & Steve's Pazz & Jop Reply with quote

The next Super Furry Animals album is going to be called Hey Venus. They really need to get over their obsession with the Williams sisters.

Graham Coxon is reuniting with the rest of Blur .. or at least they're going to get together and see if they can co-exist and come up with something. And if not, they'll split up for-ever.

In other music news: Sheryl Crow = still terrible.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I request that the title of this thread be changed to "Ses and Dteve's Pazz and Jop".
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ears are ejaculating with hopeful anticipation for that next Super Furry Animals CD. It isn't that I loved the last couple of albums, but SFA was always all over the map in the best of times. And that MySpace throwaway shows that they can still crap out melody, if they'd only put down the spliff once a month.

Blur Inc. has been an ungodly mess for too long to expect anything. "The Great Escape" was 12 years ago. The last time Blur put out a great album, Christopher Reeve could walk. Since then, it's been a series of bewildering messes-- Damon Albarn trying to chase Thom Yorke's tail, side projects with the Groovie Ghoulies, or Congolese guys playing four-foot-tall drums, or "supergroups" with less power than Aqualad... I'd love a Blur comeback, but you know the lead single's going to sound like a more feminine Roseanne Barr complaining obliquely through a walkie-talkie. At some point you have to put out the light in the window.

There's not much musical that I'm looking forward to. Maybe the Beastie Boys CD will be good. The new Ash single is all right. I like Soundtrack Of Our Lives pretty well. Supergrass might be putting something out, but they're coming off a real dud. The upcoming greatest hits from Garbage might be the most appealing.

But if Kane's reading this, Hanson is releasing something later this month.

Meanwhile in the world of lists, NME is revealing its countdown of the Greatest Indie Anthems Evah piece by piece, for fake suspense. The Top Ten are still secret, and will be unveiled one by one, or something. The choices are less embarrassing than the usual lists, although I'm still not sure what the point is. I guess the whole project is worth it, if only for the online comment that said, "Can anybody tell us which Arctic Monkeys song will be #1?"
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So much for suspense. The entire list is available at:
http://www.xfm.co.uk/Article.asp?id=400316

I'd listen to that radio station, although I still don't get why anyone should care about the big reveal. (We like old Oasis! Woooo!)

At least I'm glad to see that the Stone Roses music press suckfest that's lasted 15 years ("for erections lasting longer than a decade, consult your doctor") has begun to droop.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HEY GUYS LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT CHINESE DEMOCRACY. IT IS COMING OUT THIS YEAR AND IT IS GOING TO ROCK!!!!!!!!!!! \m/

HelloDes wrote:
My ears are ejaculating with hopeful anticipation for that next Super Furry Animals CD. It isn't that I loved the last couple of albums, but SFA was always all over the map in the best of times. And that MySpace throwaway shows that they can still crap out melody, if they'd only put down the spliff once a month.

Blur Inc. has been an ungodly mess for too long to expect anything. "The Great Escape" was 12 years ago. The last time Blur put out a great album, Christopher Reeve could walk. Since then, it's been a series of bewildering messes-- Damon Albarn trying to chase Thom Yorke's tail, side projects with the Groovie Ghoulies, or Congolese guys playing four-foot-tall drums, or "supergroups" with less power than Aqualad... I'd love a Blur comeback, but you know the lead single's going to sound like a more feminine Roseanne Barr complaining obliquely through a walkie-talkie. At some point you have to put out the light in the window.

There's not much musical that I'm looking forward to. Maybe the Beastie Boys CD will be good. The new Ash single is all right. I like Soundtrack Of Our Lives pretty well. Supergrass might be putting something out, but they're coming off a real dud. The upcoming greatest hits from Garbage might be the most appealing.

But if Kane's reading this, Hanson is releasing something later this month.

Already bought it from Japan, it's been out there for like 2 months. First album by them that has been more "that's....disappointing" than "that's not bad" to me. In addition, the version I imported has a few bonus tracks that are much better than most of the other stuff on the disc, so the American version can just fuckin' slop it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know we get kind of raucous and irreverent on this board. But in all seriousness, let me just say that the Ike Hanson news was tragic, and I'm sorry for your loss.

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a Barbaro message board I heard about on the radio the other day. People (still!) go and post nonsense about how Barbaro is a hero, they're naming their first child Barbaro, how the tears have fallen every day since Barbaro died, and how Barbaro now is free to run in endless fields of grass for eternity.

In the old days, GX Entertainment would have had a little bit of fun at these questionable individuals' expense. What a shame I am old and lacking in a sense of humor now.

That, or I haven't tracked down the board yet.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, on their official site, on the message board that was for "congratulating Isaac and his wife on the birth of their first child," I made sure to offer some helpful tips:

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Congratulations on the birth of your beautiful little colt. I've tracked down a few helpful hints that should make your first year as enjoyable as it can be:

*Be sure to offer lots of oats so the coat is nice and shiny.
*Use a fly spray to keep flies under control, but be sure to either use a guard or use a roll-on fly repellent when applying it near the eyes.
*Contrary to what you may have heard, it isn't always a good idea to include straw in the stable, as your child may eat the unsanitary material.

I hope these tips help out! Best of luck!

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFA are due for a really great album. The last couple have been sort of lackluster.

Blur haven't done anything good since Great Escape? Whaaaaaaat? There's plenty to like on 13, the self-titled and Think Tank. If we're talking about post-GE Blur, we're talking about an era that includes "Coffee & TV", "Song 2", "Beetlebum" and those are just the obvious ones. Besides, Damon has been off working with Danger Mouse, making music with percussionists from Bali, indulging his artistic streak with projects left and right. Graham has been free to his own thing, releasing solid solo albums in which he does his best tribute to Sonic Youth and power-pop bands. I think if they get together to be Blur, they won't get all nostalgic and repeate themselves too much, but I think they'll get together and make a pop record. They've gotten plenty out of their systems.

New Beastie Boys album is reportedly "instrumental post-punk". This idea sounds cool, but it would have sounded cooler 8 years ago before every band was nicking guitar sounds from '80s post-punk bands. Their instrumental stuff is always good and they haven't done it in a while, so we'll see. (There's also a rumor that they're saying it's an instrumental album as a publicity stunt to help decrease expectations or confuse people for the fun of it. You know how they are.)

Kane's tips on how to raise a baby horse made me laugh out loud twice. I think it was the use of the words "colt", "shiny" and "oats".
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously Blur has done some good things since "The Great Escape." "Woo hoo" is our generation's "duh duh DUH, duh duh duh, HEY! duh duh duh duh."

However, their last three Blur albums have been noisy, joyless slogs. And listening to them often feels like like eating a bad dinner because your girlfriend cooked it for you. We mustn't let Blur exploit our reservoir of goodwill!

The albums' backstory (the Elastica singer doesn't love me anymore, me and me mates are getting estranged, dweedle-blip noises are musically evolved) isn't especially interesting. Most "experimental" albums get the description because they don't work. When the experiment works, they talk about the album; when it doesn't, we're supposed to focus on the process. There may even be tunes lurking on those Blur albums, but who can tell? When Roger Waters purposely scratched up his vocals or threw away his melodies, he did it for punctuation. The last decade of Blur albums are the reverse; they're all effect and you have to go spelunking for the melodies.

Blur didn't just fall off the table like Dodgy, true, or dribble away like Suede, or devolve into a tribute band like Oasis. But I don't find their career path invigorating or rewarding.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In terms of the number of solid, thoroughly positive albums (w/o greatest hits), I'd rank the Britpop ponies in this rough order:

Suede: 3; (4 if you count the B-sides comp)
Super Furry Animals: 3; ditto
Boo Radleys: 3

Blur: 2
Oasis: 2
Dodgy: 2
Supergrass: 2

Black Grape: 1
Elastica: 1

SFA, Supergrass, Bluetones, Pulp, Cast, and a couple more have other releases that have really good parts to them, but don't which hold together as well. I guess the lesson here is that Suede is underrated.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'm a Blur/Albarn geek. The only Blur album I would rank below "above average" is Leisure.
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I don't begrudge the guy for trying stuff. I just don't celebrate the results.

Every once in a while, I pull out one of the Blur CDs I don't like, to give it another chance. I've come around on albums before. But it hasn't worked yet with them.
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I'm listening to the Super Furry Animals' new album Hey Venus RIGHT NOW. Thank you, internets.
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Mmmf, I don't know. I just went through Metacritic's list of upcoming releases, and let's just say I don't have the same tingly feeling I had about "Ratatouille" or "Deathly Hallows."

(Incidentally, "Ratatouille"? WONDERFUL! First time I've gone to see a movie on opening day since I can remember. "Blair Witch," probably, and that was only because I got an insane instant last-minute assignment where they wanted four pages by Monday. Anyone remember the legend of G. Harb in that one?)

Anyhow, these CDs interested me the most... kind of.
*SFA-- it'll take me a while to tire of them, even in the wake of a few forgettable albums. But I don't think I'll be paying $30 to get the import double-quick.
*Raveonettes-- I may eventually regret this, like my six Jesus & Mary Chain albums I never ever listen to. But right now, I like their droney production.
*New Pornographers-- they've also taken the edge of my desire by putting out progressively less-good releases.
*Garbage-- a best-of, could be worth it.
*Rooney/Coral/Bees/Thrills/James-- I'll have to sniff the wind on these. One of them will be good, I hope.

The Beastie Boys release looks like some beats 'n backing tracks thing... pass. Ash used to put out okay albums with 2-3 great tracks; they've forgotten that important second part. Soundtrack Of Our Lives had that one great CD, I don't know where they stand now. Prince has been boring me for a long time. Oasis is an Oasis cover band. R.E.M. has lost it. I'm not gonna buy it, but I'm rooting for Britney Spears, just because nobody will admit she had about 4 or 5 good songs. A Michael Jackson comeback would be even funnier, but as long as I'm secreting my own LSD, I may as well expect a "Chinese Democracy" box set.

James Blunt drops September 14, so if you want me after the 10th or so, just look for the man inside the sleeping bag outside of Sam Goody.
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The new SFA is fun, good but still somehow underwhelming. This slightly depresses me since this is now the third SFA album where my reaction was less-than-thrilled.

I thought Twin Cinema was solid and more chock-full of goodness than Electric Version, but it's hard to top or equal an album like Mass Romantic - an album that would likely rest comfortably in my top 20 albums of the decade list, should such a list exist. According to early reviews, the NEW New Pornographers' album is "more of a low-key" affair. I don't mind artists doing their "challenging" or "soft" albums... but I look to the NPs for pure pop sunshiney goodness. Save those slow burners for the next solo record, Newman! (Incidentally, A.C. Newman's solo album was my favorite album of '04, no foolin'. Much more low-key than the NP albums, but the songwriting's still strong and the melodies lodge in your brain like Laffy Taffy to your teeth.) Also, Bejar's songs are supposedly the highlights of this one. This doesn't shock me since some of the best NP songs are his ("Jackie") and his Destroyer stuff is insanely brlliant.

The new Beastie Boys album is instrumental new stuff that could soundtrack some nostalgic movie based on an old '70s cop show. If you like the instrumental stuff from Ill Communication, Check Your Head (which were all compiled on The In Sound From Way Out!) - you'll like it. It's just okay. I have to wonder if the negative reviews of the last album and age have made them think twice about rapping again.

I haven't had much interest in Ash since Free All Angels.

I will buy the new Prince CD and probably like it okay. Seriously, Musicology and 3121 are kind of overrated and the whole "he's back!" hype has been silly for both, but they are a definite step up from basically anything he's released since The Gold Experience.

Oasis has become Dullsville.

R.E.M. has definitely lost it. The last album was so boring, it hurt my feelings.

4 or 5 good Britney songs? "Toxic", "I'm a Slave 4 U"..... that's all I'll give her. The rest of her singles are pretty annoying. And seriously, if one of your 4 or 5 is "Not a Girl, Not Yet a Woman".... you're off the Christmas card list.

A serious, legitimate Michael Jackson comeback would be one of the greatest things ever. Not only because good NEW Michael Jackson songs would be surprising at this point and great news - but because the unintentional comedy scale would break.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Prince single: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdmc_vwbPmY
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I just have just one question for you music experts: Is Nick Lowe the father of Ric Flair?

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Mr Perfect wrote:
I just have just one question for you music experts: Is Nick Lowe the father of Ric Flair?

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Ric Flair's a month older than Lowe.

So - no.
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I was just trying to make a reference. I have failed in that mission.

So I'll distract you all with THIS

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moe Howard: the sixth Backstreet Boy.
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The new SFA album grows more rewarding with each listen. It's coming out in the U.S. officially in January. Until then, you can buy it on vinyl, buy an expensive import, buy it digitally or steal free music from the internets because fuck you, record companies, man! EE! EM! EYE!
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New Super Furry Animals videos, two of the best videos of the year:

"Run-Away"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BANdftxuqlM

And just in time for Christmas!
"The Gift that Keeps Giving"
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Awww, get real, an amnesia storyline? Even "Heroes" didn't resort to that until Season Two! Unless they did and I forgot! Which would be more ironic than 10,000 spoons!

While doing Christmas shopping, I spotted the "Hey Venus" import from an Amazon seller for about 12 dollars so I went for it. Merry Christmas, me! Gosh, I shouldn't have!

The Onion came out with its list(s) of the year's music. Zzzzzzz. So much amiable "uncommercial" product. So many space-filling lyrical quotations / with the little slashy marks / between lines. So much "their last album created impossible expectations but they met them!" or "their last album left us with no expectations but they surprised us!" blah-blah-blah. And so little unexpected. The comments section is the usual diarrhetic jousting and bellyaching about how Included Album wasn't all that, and holy crud how COULD the fools have omitted Personal Favorite? But one guy nailed the generic feel, saying he could purchase the whole list in a store without needing to walk around very much.

Usually I can glean some useful tips from the individual lists, but there wasn't much there, either. You can tell when they think they're being WILD and COUNTERINTUITIVE, and totally off the beaten path, by picking Paul McCartney or Kanye West.

One of the album blurbs describes the band shifting to a major label yet (strangely) not immediately sucking. That pretty much gives away the game right there.

Then again, I've got a stack of CDs sitting inert and growing roots into a shelf (none of them from the Onion list) while I just lazily listen to webstreams for Lucky Dog Radio or the Technicolor Web of Sound. Today's music has failed me, and I have failed today's music right back.
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"Heroes" actually did several amnesia storylines in Season One, when Claire's dad made her mom forget what she had ever seen and tried to erase Claire's memory.

I saw the Onion's year-end list. It wasn't very good. I think the Arcade Fire topped it, which automatically cancels out its usefulness.
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Foleyite wrote:
"Heroes" actually did several amnesia storylines in Season One, when Claire's dad made her mom forget what she had ever seen and tried to erase Claire's memory.


Aw, crudberries. They've even got a walking amnesia machine as a principal character. How dumb am I?
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HelloDes wrote:
Foleyite wrote:
"Heroes" actually did several amnesia storylines in Season One, when Claire's dad made her mom forget what she had ever seen and tried to erase Claire's memory.


Aw, crudberries. They've even got a walking amnesia machine as a principal character. How dumb am I?


Maybe you just had amnesia.
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Possibly. Or maybe I just had amnesia.
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Here's the list from PopMatters. It seems better than the Onion's, if only because it has a country album at #2, and the Fratellis in the top ten.

I don't have much to say about it except that my life just got 0.000000001004% better after finding out there's a band called "Ha Ha Tonka."

20. Meshell Ndegeocello The World Has Made Me the Man of My Dreams
19. Spoon Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
18. Rahsaan Patterson Wines and Spirits
17. The Avett Brothers Emotionalism
16. Talib Kweli Ear Drum
15. Ha Ha Tonka Buckle in the Bible Belt
14. The Good, the Bad & the Queen The Good, the Bad & the Queen
13. Mike Farris Salvation in Lights
12. Josh Ritter The Historical Conquests of Josh Ritter
11. Mavis Staples We'll Never Turn Back
10. M.I.A. Kala
9. The Fratellis Costello Music
8. Amy Winehouse Back to Black
7. The National Boxer
6. Lyle Lovett and His Large Band It's Not Big, It's Large
5. Arcade Fire Neon Bible
4. Kanye West Graduation
3. LCD Soundsystem Sound of Silver
2. Miranda Lambert Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
1. Radiohead In Rainbows
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PopMatters' top singles. For the most part, the Top 20 seems like "songs we like from our top albums, in slightly different order." Which is sensible logic, but not too inspiring, either.

10. Kanye West -- "The Good Life"
9. UGK feat. OutKast -- “International Player’s Anthem (I Choose You)”
8. M.I.A. -- “Paper Planes”
7. The Arcade Fire -- “Intervention”
6. Amy Winehouse -- “Rehab”
5. The Fratellis -- “Flathead”
4. Miranda Lambert -- “Gunpowder and Lead”
3. LCD Soundsystem -- “All My Friends”
2. Rihanna -- “Umbrella”
1. Battles -- “Atlas”

Oh, and "Umbrella" blows. It blows, it blows, it buh-lell-lows. I'm down wit "Work It," I'm all about "Crazy in Love," but this SUMMERTIME'S INESCAPABLE SUMMER ANTHEM OF THE SUMMER bullshit ID tag isn't sticking this time. SO SORRY, WOOL-COVERED MUSIC PRESS, TRY AGAIN.

Maybe if I got hot and bothered over a girl sporting thighs like Marvin Harrison's, I could convince myself otherwise.
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HelloDes wrote:
Here's the list from PopMatters. It seems better than the Onion's, if only because it has a country album at #2, and the Fratellis in the top ten.


Tokenism used to rear its ugly head in the form of the inclusion of hip-hop albums. But in this day and age, when critics have grown up with and actually enjoy hip-hop, tokenism takes different forms. Now critics and indie kids pretend that they don't totally hate top 40 or modern country. That Miranda Lambert album is the token modern country pick across the board this year. "Her lyrics are funny and she's a sassy gal, that Miranda Lambert!" Don't these people listen to country music, um, ever? Female country singers are almost ALWAYS sassy with 'funny' lyrics; some of 'em are genuinely funny and some of 'em are groaners worthy of Larry the Cable Guy. Whatever.
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HelloDes wrote:
PopMatters' top singles. For the most part, the Top 20 seems like "songs we like from our top albums, in slightly different order." Which is sensible logic, but not too inspiring, either.

10. Kanye West -- "The Good Life"
9. UGK feat. OutKast -- “International Player’s Anthem (I Choose You)”
8. M.I.A. -- “Paper Planes”
7. The Arcade Fire -- “Intervention”
6. Amy Winehouse -- “Rehab”
5. The Fratellis -- “Flathead”
4. Miranda Lambert -- “Gunpowder and Lead”
3. LCD Soundsystem -- “All My Friends”
2. Rihanna -- “Umbrella”
1. Battles -- “Atlas”

Oh, and "Umbrella" blows. It blows, it blows, it buh-lell-lows. I'm down wit "Work It," I'm all about "Crazy in Love," but this SUMMERTIME'S INESCAPABLE SUMMER ANTHEM OF THE SUMMER bullshit ID tag isn't sticking this time. SO SORRY, WOOL-COVERED MUSIC PRESS, TRY AGAIN.

Maybe if I got hot and bothered over a girl sporting thighs like Marvin Harrison's, I could convince myself otherwise.


Yep, "Umbrella" sucks. "All My Friends" & "Int'l Players Anthem" are the best singles of the year in my book. Kanye had three singles better than the one they listed. "Atlas" (and the Battles album in general) is more 'interesting' or admirable than 'good' - though if you want to see an English crowd confused, check out Battles' appearance on Later with Jools Holland. The Arcade Fire song is alright and the Clash-sampling M.I.A. song is great. The rest I can do without.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm zipping through these songs, most of which I'm unfamiliar with, to provide instant kneejerk reactions. And I'm just the jerk to do it!

"All Our Friends"... sounds like Ric Ocasek doing an adequate Psychedelic Furs song. I kept waiting for something to happen.

"Int'l Players Anthem"-- well, I liked the sample until they started chikka-chikka-chik'ing it. And I liked Andre. [jonstewart] UGK... not so much.[/jonstewart]

"Atlas"-- ooh, pinch me, the Chipmunks sing Rob Zombie. Where has THIS dynamic sound been all my life? And why did I have to live long enough to hear it?

"Gunpowder and Lead"-- yee hah, a "Goodbye Earl" remake, right down to the off-meter chorus. That big music build sounds like fifty other songs I've heard, all of which I've forgotten: The Wall of Suck.

I have the Fratellis' album; I remember liking it more than I remember anything on it. Not that this reinforces my feeling... this song's pretty 'whatever'.

"Rehab" is very good. I guess I should hurry up and buy the album while I still have the chance, before it looks like I'm just cheesily jumping onto her death bandwagon. I haven't been following the details of the saga, because I'm not a gay British tabloid reporter. But the YouTube videos make her look like Sarah Silverman, if Jimmy Kimmel was an abusive husband.

"Intervention"-- I don't care about Bono WITH the vocal range, why would I care about this?

"Paper Planes"-- eh, double dutch doesn't do much for me either. I won't give her..... my unconditional love.

"The Good Life"-- what, again? I know there's a movie out but did I miss some secret Chipmunks revival movement in music? That squeaky voice effect reminds me of the "P.Y.T." effect in Michael Jackson's old song. But these lyrics... hoo boy. Did Kanye really tell me to throw my hands up? Is he really calling out a series of city names? Did he really open up champagne? And this guy wants ALL the awards? I guess after "Rehab" this is the best of the lot, but it's not even as good as "Stronger."

And that PopMatters #11-20 doesn't even look as enticing as the first ten. Hey, 2000 and 7... krup you!
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"All Our Friends"... sounds like Ric Ocasek doing an adequate Psychedelic Furs song. I kept waiting for something to happen.


You mean "All MY Friends". It's all build. It's Kraut-rock dance, so it's kinda unfair to say there's no real hook or chorus. That's not what he's going for.

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"Int'l Players Anthem"-- well, I liked the sample until they started chikka-chikka-chik'ing it. And I liked Andre. [jonstewart] UGK... not so much.[/jonstewart]


The Andre verse is definitely the highlight. He's the heart of the song. "Keep your heart three stacks, keep your heart! Man, these girls are smart! Play your part". I also love Big Boi's lyric "Ask Paul McCartney" when he's talking about divorces and lawyers and stuff. Overall, I think it's pretty awesome and single-of-the-year worthy.

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"Atlas"-- ooh, pinch me, the Chipmunks sing Rob Zombie. Where has THIS dynamic sound been all my life? And why did I have to live long enough to hear it?


The guys in Battles are all super-talented guys that have been around and have been in various other bands. Sort of an indie-supergroup thing. But I couldn't get into that album at all. It's all very "Yeah wow, this guy on drums is insane!", but there's not much "Wow, what a great song".

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"Gunpowder and Lead"-- yee hah, a "Goodbye Earl" remake, right down to the off-meter chorus. That big music build sounds like fifty other songs I've heard, all of which I've forgotten: The Wall of Suck.


Told you.

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"Intervention"-- I don't care about Bono WITH the vocal range, why would I care about this?


Are you saying this is trying too hard to be epic and earnest? WORKIN' FOR THE CHURCH WHILE YOUR FAMILY DIES! Whoa, dude, calm down. I guess folks on the Internet and critics are right. This is a much more mature Arcade Fire album than the first one. Only mature songwriters tackle subject matter like vaguely apocalyptic lyrics and Jessica Simpson's dad. MIRROR MIRROR ON THE WALL SHOW ME WHERE THEM BOMBS WILL FALL! Haha, Internet hype, you so crazy!

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"The Good Life"-- what, again? I know there's a movie out but did I miss some secret Chipmunks revival movement in music? That squeaky voice effect reminds me of the "P.Y.T." effect in Michael Jackson's old song. But these lyrics... hoo boy. Did Kanye really tell me to throw my hands up? Is he really calling out a series of city names? Did he really open up champagne? And this guy wants ALL the awards? I guess after "Rehab" this is the best of the lot, but it's not even as good as "Stronger."


That is "P.Y.T" being sampled in the song. If you pay close attention, you can hear Michael's "aw baby" in the background. "Stronger", "Can't Tell Me Nothin'" and "Flashing Lights" are all way better Kanye singles.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last couple of months, I've been using YouTube to help fill in my gaps in knowledge about the British singles charts. Pulling random fractions out of my butt, probably a third of the #1 songs in England were sizeable hits here, too. And let's say that another third I'm aware of through non-Top 40 radio means. That still left dozens and dozens of chart-topping smashes that I really had no clue about. Well, most of them are on YouTube. And holy God, most of them are terrible. There's a SLEW of "ethnic-sounding" songs. And a ton of dreadful Eurovision cheese. Plus some really sad (yet totally successful) attempts to piggyback onto whatever music trend was hot at the time-- really, the guys from ABBA should be allowed to walk into the homes of the members of Bucks Fizz, and just start carrying out their furniture while saying, "We both know this was paid for by me." And oooh, who knew the bottomless British appetite for old revival songs or jaunty novelty numbers sung by doddering music hall relics? Sometimes with children's choruses!

I've slogged from about 1963 to 1984, and I haven't found one song which I'm eager to pick up. And just 3 or 4 songs that surpass "tolerable" (definition: better than Boney M). Only a handful of the #1s aren't on YouTube, so you know THEY must be gems, considering the unending garbage at least one YouTube user cares enough to post. Every couple of days I've gone on and checked out another half dozen of them, which is generally all I can stand. Here's the roster of greatness:

Four Pennies - Juliet
Rolling Stones - Little Red Rooster
Jackie Trent - Where Are You Now (My Love)
Ken Dodd - Tears
Seekers - The Carnival Is Over
Long John Baldry - Let The Heartaches Begin
Esther & Abi Ofarim - Cinderella Rockefella
Des O'Connor - I Pretend
Scaffold - Lily The Pink
Amen Corner - If Paradise Is Half As Nice
Rolf Harris - Two Little Boys
Dana - All Kinds Of Everything
Clive Dunn - Grandad
Mungo Jerry - Baby Jump
Tams - Hey Girl, Don't Bother Me
Benny Hill - Ernie (The Fastest Milkman In The West)
Chicory Tip - Son Of My Father
Lieutenant Pigeon - Mouldy Old Dough
10cc - Rubber Bullets
Peters And Lee - Welcome Home
Simon Park Orchestra - Eye Level (Theme From The Thames TV Series Van Der Valk)
New Seekers - You Won't Find Another Fool Like Me
Alvin Stardust - Jealous Mind
Rubettes - Sugar Baby Love
Charles Aznavour - She
Sweet Sensation - Sad Sweet Dreamer
David Essex - Gonna Make You A Star
Mud - Lonely This Christmas
Tymes - Ms Grace
Pilot - January
Windsor Davies & Don Estelle - Whispering Grass
Typically Tropical - Barbados
David Essex - Hold Me Close
Slik - Forever And Ever
Tina Charles - I Love To Love (But My Baby Loves To Dance)
J.J. Barrie - No Charge
Wurzels - Combine Harvester (Brand New Key)
Real Thing - You To Me Are Everything
Demis Roussos - The Roussos Phenomenon
Pussycat - Mississippi
Showaddywaddy - Under The Moon Of Love
Deniece Williams - Free
Brotherhood Of Man - Angelo
Baccara - Yes Sir, I Can Boogie
Althia & Donna - Up Town Top Ranking
Brotherhood Of Man - Figaro
Brian and Michael - Matchstalk Men & Matchstalk Cats & Dogs (Lowry's Song)
10cc - Dreadlock Holiday
Boney M - Mary's Boy Child
Lena Martell - One Day At A Time
Specials - The Special AKA Live! - Too Much Too Young
Fern Kinney - Together We Are Beautiful
Dexy's Midnight Runners - Geno
Johnny Logan - Whats Another Year
Odyssey - Use It Up And Wear It Out
Kelly Marie - Feels Like I'm in Love
St Winifreds School Choir - No One Quite Like Grandma
Bucks Fizz - Making Your Mind Up
Adam and the Ants - Stand and Deliver
Aneka - Japanese Boy
Dave Stewart & Barbara Gaskin - It's My Party
Bucks Fizz - Land Of Make Believe
Kraftwerk - The Model
Goombay Dance Band - Seven Tears
Bucks Fizz - My Camera Never Lies
Nicole - A Little Peace
Captain Sensible - Happy Talk
Eddy Grant - I Don't Wanna Dance
Renee And Renato - Save Your Love
Flying Pickets - Only You
Jim Diamond - I Should Have Known Better

Now, there are also some GREAT British #1s that aren't standards here, from "Have I the Right?" to "All or Nothing" to "Je T'Aime... Moi Non Plus" to "Mull of Kintyre" to "Are Friends Electric?" to "Going Underground." But I knew those already. This aesthetic experiment has been brutal and painful. And considering that I've shut a lot of these videos off halfway or sooner, I guess I'm not learning as much as hoped, either.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't checked out any further horrible, horrible British #1 singles. But I HAVE heard that the Kinks are reuniting for a tour:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=504710&in_page_id=1773

I've heard some of Ray Davies' 2006-07 songs on the Underground Garage music channel, and they're actually good. I had his two last albums on my list of things to buy, maybe.

The big news-- possibly-- is that the reunion/tour will be in conjunction with a full Kinks box set. Since I already have so much of the Kinks' stuff, this will no doubt be an unnecessary boutique item that I will resent being tempted to purchase. But assuming it's an actual career-spanning collection, culled with some taste, it might be the single most overdue super-comp. The Kinks' contractual history must be a total mess, since previous "best-ofs" (all 1500 of them) only cover a specific third of their output.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HelloDes wrote:
I haven't checked out any further horrible, horrible British #1 singles. But I HAVE heard that the Kinks are reuniting for a tour:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=504710&in_page_id=1773

I've heard some of Ray Davies' 2006-07 songs on the Underground Garage music channel, and they're actually good. I had his two last albums on my list of things to buy, maybe.

The big news-- possibly-- is that the reunion/tour will be in conjunction with a full Kinks box set. Since I already have so much of the Kinks' stuff, this will no doubt be an unnecessary boutique item that I will resent being tempted to purchase. But assuming it's an actual career-spanning collection, culled with some taste, it might be the single most overdue super-comp. The Kinks' contractual history must be a total mess, since previous "best-ofs" (all 1500 of them) only cover a specific third of their output.


The Kinks are one of the best things humanity has ever produced. I'll buy such a box set and tickets to a reunion show in a heartbeat.

The last couple of Ray Davies releases (Thanksgiving Day EP, Other People's Lives) were pretty good. I actually saw him when he toured for OPL and it was pretty fantastic. He can still sing well, he surrounded himself with some talented young folks and although he promoted the new album - you got a treasure trove of Kinks songs, as well. Also, he comes off as this really funny, nice guy with tons of stories and jokes between the songs. He's like one of your dad's friends whose got tons of entertaining stories. It was well worth it.
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Well, I was half a year behind you but I can confirm that SFA's Hey Venus is okayness personified.

Then again, I bought every Ramones album ever, and I only got bored for good with Van Morrison around 1998-2000. So how can I plausibly turn around now and crack wise about Los Furries releasing "more in their affably familiar vein"?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Des, have you ever listened to Skyhooks? They're my favorite new old musical discovery. They were Australia's big band of the '70s, I guess. Sort of Australia's own Queen or Roxy Music...sort of. Really campy and glammy, but the image is more glammy than the music. In fact, they actually sound like a '70s version of Iron Maiden sometimes. And a lot of the songs are closer to Big Star than they are to T. Rex. I actually think Mek & Kane would dig these guys too, considering the three of us once spent about an entire week chatting about the genius of Queen. They're one of those bands that are hilarious on several levels, but they actually have the songs to back up the costumes. And the frontman is like if Terry Gordy had Bryan Ferry living inside him. Yeah.

Here's a shitload of videos! God bless you, YouTube!:

"All My Friends Are Getting Married" - This song is so 1975 and so, so awesome. Should be used in a movie PRONTO. I'm gonna be singing this song to myself, as I'm forced to attend friends' weddings this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAH5dvfYEto

"Why Don't You All Get Fucked?" - Live performance where they have to amusingly leave out the "fucked". This song is pretty reminiscent of the more "rockin'" Queen songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0lfCcbQPyk&feature=related

"Saturday Night" - Man, Saturday nights in the '70s must have been wild. Everyone was writing songs about that day of the week back then. This is like the Bay City Rollers raided Peter Gabriel's Genesis wardrobe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QojJOhjcc&feature=related

"Women in Uniform" - "Hello there, sailor" is the first line of the song. Yeah, these guys rule it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNPkQZSOKr8&feature=related

"Horror Movie" - AWESOME INTRO CITY.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_8SoO0PKuM&feature=related

"Trouble with the Computer" - BEAT YOU TO THE PUNCH, STYX AND RADIOHEAD. These guys were having problems with computers in 1978! Des, maybe your YouTube problem is that maybe it just likes you and wants to make you rich?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xs2pVtaf_g&feature=related


"Living in the Seventies"
- "I'm livin' in the '70s/I feel like I lost my keys".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG7kyFxxqi8&feature=related
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like to be argumentative, but perhaps my blood is still angried up from this JBL quote, which is verbatim, and also word for word:

"If you come to the Royal Rumble, the savior that you are espousing is going to need saved from me."

It's no "look of frustration," but it entertained me more than the entire careers of Batista, Bob Holly, and Jonathan Coachman combined.

Anyway, the Skyhooks seem totally generic, just like that long list of ghastly British #1s up top, which features a lot of trend-chasing shlock. One minute the Skyhook guy's channeling "Cum On Feel the Noize," the next he's aping "Smokin' in the Boys Room." They reek of directionless ambition, right down to the "hey, look, I'm a guy wearing makeup-- crazy, huh, am I right?" faces at the camera. Okay, so the jester hat with the dangling balls is funny, and "Women in Love" has something to it. But I'm not hearing undiscovered diamonds.

For an underrated Australian band that thinks it's hard, I much prefer the Easybeats. YouTube is stingy on what I consider the primo stuff, but:

You've got your choice of multiple "Friday On My Mind"s, both live and canned.

"Hello How Are You" (live, not as good as the record but this gives the flavor):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmrJ17z5du8

"Sorry":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drNqZWzj5GY

"Hey St. Peter" (two of the Easybeats, a decade later-- sounds nothing like 'em, but a good song):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1_yJi9ihJw

That's about it. There are a lot of other really good Easybeats songs ("Land of Make Believe" manages to be fey and propulsive at the same time), but either they didn't perform 'em or nobody's posted 'em.

"Pretty Girl" is sappy but okay:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiVTDCuWZZk

"Wedding Ring" (you can barely hear it, but the lads are SO getting blown after the show):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lIFY2A8pIg&NR=1

Here's something called "EasyFever," which is typical "They're wild! They cavort!" 1960s pop star footage, set to a medley of songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiY_UjbV5Rk&NR=1

You can also see the Easybeats lip synching to a recording of "I'll Make You Happy" in which THE FRIGGIN' RECORD IS SCRATCHED. I can only hope it's some guy who matched some footage to his own scratchy copy, and not the least diligent TV show ever.

Paul McCartney reportedly heard "Good Times" on his car radio and liked it enough to pull over and phone the radio station to play it again. Decide for yourself (I think he could've kept on driving).

To bring this thread full circle, I duly pass along the news that the Super Furry Animals are on Letterman this Thursday. So I guess the U.S. release will be getting a promotional push. Too bad it's the wrong album.

But the true #1 recommendation is not SFA or the Easybeats, but "To Be Or Not To Be." It's on TCM this Wednesday afternoon (4:30 EST) and it's one of the all-time great movie comedies.
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