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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there's a red house over yonder
That's where my baby stays
Lord there's a red house over yonder
Oh that's where my baby stays
I ain't been home to see my baby
In ninety-nine and one half days


So I guess you could go over yonder and ask his baby.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Oh oh ooooh
We can fuck
Oh oh ooooh
We can fuck."


To quote one KaneRobot, "He's not wrong."
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Things Prince Says He (or We) Can Do:

fuck
funk
funk until the dawn
work it out
get up
work on that zipper, baby
do this
pose in the mirror
stay in touch
feel 4ever
make some time
take our vows
change anything at all
fill your every dream, baby
find a good reason
feel U without even touching
jump in the sack
hold my own
eat my dinner in a fancy restaurant

Some Things Prince Says He (or We) Can't Do:

love U anymore
be lovers
make babies
last
stop this feeling I got
look into your eyes
be your prince
make U love me if you don't
make your heart feel something if you don't
watch U die like this
make U understand
be your hero
hang with you
find no place to go
dance unless it's me and U
watch U living a lie
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HelloDes wrote:

Some Things Prince Says He (or We) Can't Do:

love U anymore
be lovers
make babies
last
stop this feeling I got
look into your eyes
be your prince
make U love me if you don't
make your heart feel something if you don't
watch U die like this
make U understand
be your hero
hang with you
find no place to go
dance unless it's me and U
watch U living a lie


stop writing songs about ya
take the place of your man
stop the party, people
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HelloDes wrote:

Some Things Prince Says He (or We) Can't Do:
...
make U love me if you don't
make your heart feel something if you don't
...
hang with you



I wrote "you" instead of "U" not once, not twice, not 38 times, but THREE times! To atone, I must now walk naked through my town while a severe nun rings the cowbell from "U Got the Look" and says "Shame. Shame." Coincidentally, that exact mental image kept a jaded Prince hard throughout the year 1995.

The "I"s don't count as errors because I couldn't find a keyboard eyeball.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

forgive U.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The correct word is "4give," ASSFACE.
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Sign O the Times, the 1987 concert film written and directed by Prince that served as a companion piece to his iconic double album, is coming to Showtime. On September 16, the movie will air on television for the first time in over a decade.


Between this and the Twin Peaks return, I'm convinced that somebody at Showtime is just going through my browser history and trying their damndest to prove that they're cooler than HBO.
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Followed by a new episode of Masters O Sex.
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Every Christmas night 4 seven years now
I drink banana daiquiris till I'm blind
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking again today that among the major-est of major artists, Prince might be the one with the shittiest, most slovenly run of album covers.

Also in the running:

Neil Young
Bob Dylan
The Beach Boys
Stevie Wonder (who at least has an excuse)
The Kinks
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HelloDes wrote:
I was thinking again today that among the major-est of major artists, Prince might be the one with the shittiest, most slovenly run of album covers.

Also in the running:

Neil Young
Bob Dylan
The Beach Boys
Stevie Wonder (who at least has an excuse)
The Kinks


I don't know, I think all of those guys (Prince, Neil, Dylan, Beach Boys) all had some pretty good/fitting artwork during their peak years. Of course, it's hard to separate the artwork from the good music, but I'd defend the album covers of Sign O' the Times or Purple Rain on a purely aesthetic level any day. Neil's album covers are just mostly boring.


If you're talking about later on in their careers, well yeah. The Beach Boys in particular had some nightmarishly bad aesthetics going on in the 1980s.
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"Purple Rain" is a greasier version of the cover for "Ziggy Stardust" if Bowie had Batgirl's cycle. "Sign O' the Times" is "Sgt. Pepper" if three of the Beatles and all the cardboard people walked away, the photographer was in the wrong spot, and Paul was standing way too close to the camera, with jaundice. Or you could put half a yellow Prince in front of one of Neil Young's less lousy covers.

You might be hyp-mo-tized by A+ contents. You can also listen to "Pet Sounds" on a loop for the next 40 years, still be hearing new things in it, and the cover (cough) design will remain just a perfunctory 3-minute shoot at a petting zoo.

I would estimate that the covers for "Lovesexy" and "3121" are probably, umm, let's say the furthest from unsuccessful. Prince's best album cover, whatever it actually is, would be like the Flaming Lips' fifth best, and who cares about Flaming Lips album covers?

Neil Young mostly doesn't try, but whenever he does it's horrible: see "Zuma," or his self-titled debut, or "The Monsanto Years," or "American Stars 'n Bars," or "Trans"... ugh. They couldn't be uglier if they had tufts of kudzu hair sticking out of the sides and looked like Neil Young.
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I can't believe it-- there was an eight-minute Prince unplugged segment on VH1 back in 2004 and I had never seen it or even heard of it. And it's, uh, pretty good.

https://www.facebook.com/PrincePhotographicTribute/videos/897767093704504/?hc_ref=ARTcJmRYMa8J-LEUpOdlPj-mBRK8LwsKtPJ4_SOlh8dtNnBYb9fyMliNprNJE0fBj8w

It's from the same time period as the Hall of Fame "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" explosion. Here's another link to the Unplugged segment, in case the first one doesn't work; Facebook links can be screwy, and apparently they also forward your medical prescription history to Omsk.

https://vimeo.com/215544805
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He actually did this when I saw him on the Musicology tour in 2004. He had a whole acoustic mini-set of probably 7 or 8 songs, where he did (if I remember correctly) "Cream", "Raspberry Beret", "Little Red Corvette", a couple of new songs, "Sweet Thing" and "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man". Outside of the acoustic mini-set, he covered Zeppelin and Sam & Dave, did a ton of his hits and probably played something close to 30-35 songs. Dude was incredible.

There was another show Prince did shortly before that where we went to a movie theater and watched his set live. ("Do we still applaud after songs? It's not like Prince is here.") I remember being jealous that that crowd got an acoustic version of "Sometimes It Snows in April". From looking up setlists around the time, he changed up what songs he did during that mini-acoustic set a bunch.
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Newly released: Prince's original 1984 version of "Nothing Compares 2 U."

Baldy's was better.
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Newly released: Prince's original 1984 version of "Nothing Compares 2 U."

Baldy's was better.


Yeah. But it's cool to finally have the proper studio version of this in non-bootleg-or-live form.
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The new Janelle Monae album is a better Prince album than Prince's last couple of releases.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the new Prince album slated 4 September. After reading about how a lot of the material in the vault wasn't taken care of, it would be sad but also kinda funny if they released all this vault stuff Prince fans have dreamed of for years and then it's just full of warped tape glitches and parts where the audio drops out due to degradation.
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I listened to the four Janelle Monae songs she (or they, if you buy the pansexual hype) pre-released to YouTube. And not one of them did much for me. I know the album's getting euphoric reviews, but so does everything Kendrick Lamar releases, and with the exception of a song or two (e.g. "King Kunta"), he puts me right to sleep.

Monae is one of those artists that logic says I should be liking better than I do, but it doesn't happen. I thought "Cold War" and "Tightrope" were both fantastic, but then everything else... whatever. Oh well.
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I listened to the four Janelle Monae songs she (or they, if you buy the pansexual hype) pre-released to YouTube. And not one of them did much for me. I know the album's getting euphoric reviews, but so does everything Kendrick Lamar releases, and with the exception of a song or two (e.g. "King Kunta"), he puts me right to sleep.

Monae is one of those artists that logic says I should be liking better than I do, but it doesn't happen. I thought "Cold War" and "Tightrope" were both fantastic, but then everything else... whatever. Oh well.


I've been a Janelle fan ever since Outkast basically introduced her, but I always felt like she had a world of potential and hadn't really hit her stride yet. But I think this new album is what I always kinda hoped to get from her.

Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. I also love Kendrick and would maybe even say he's my current favorite artist working.
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Outkast is another act with phenomenal highs-- it's not possible to find a better song than "B.O.B."-- who never nailed that "great album" thing. (If in fact that was ever a goal... it's a track by track world now.)
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Outkast is another act with phenomenal highs-- it's not possible to find a better song than "B.O.B."-- who never nailed that "great album" thing. (If in fact that was ever a goal... it's a track by track world now.)


OK, now you're just trying to wind me up.

The Love Below/Speakerboxx had too much filler, but I'd qualify Aquemini, ATLiens and Stankonia as great albums.
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Good, but up and down for me. But it adds up. They'll have a pantheonic Greatest Hits if they ever get around to releasing one.

This is not a demerit in the scheme of musical wonderfulness. I cherish the 2 minutes and 18 seconds of "Surfin' Bird" as much as the complete "Exile on Main Street" double album.
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Good, but up and down for me. But it adds up. They'll have a pantheonic Greatest Hits if they ever get around to releasing one.

This is not a demerit in the scheme of musical wonderfulness. I cherish the 2 minutes and 18 seconds of "Surfin' Bird" as much as the complete "Exile on Main Street" double album.


Their timing was a little off since they had that Best-Of right after Stankonia. Had they just waited a couple of years until after the next one, they'd have a monster greatest hits with "Hey Ya", "Roses", "The Way You Move" in there with the Stankonia hits and '90s jams.

They're also kinda responsible for my love of Janelle Monae. She arrived fully formed with an Outkast co-sign and has never done anything to ruin it.
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On an unrelated note, I try to keep up with my surviving favorites from one of my favorite-ever periods of music, the ~1993-1997 "Britpop" era, even though the results are often desultory and disappointing. (Poor Dodgy. They even did a crowdsourced album, and the crowd should demand a refund.)

A lot of times, this means that the acts are defunct and I'm actually checking out the guy from Super Furry Animals, or a guy from Suede, or a guy from Oasis. And frankly, it hasn't been a rich vein of platinum that has fully rewarded my moth-eaten hopes.

However, the new album by Gaz Coombes (the guy from Supergrass) is... well, it's solid. Definitely in the mode of Blur when they decided to go alt-rock instead of continuing their Parklife/Great Escape sound. (A decision I still oppose.)

But it's better than Coombes' previous two solo projects. And I could easily see someone liking it more than I do, which is "reasonably." It ain't no "We're In It For the Money," which is still one of my favorite albums of the last 25 years, but it does hang together.

You can hear the whole thing here until NPR pulls the cord, which they always do on these previews sooner than later. And once that happens... well, it'll probably already be on Spotify and YouTube and Bandcamp and Soundcloud, so I guess you don't have to rush:

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/26/604106708/first-listen-gaz-coombes-world-s-strongest-man
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I'll listen to that Gaz album. Gruff Rhys has another one coming soon, as well. My love for Super Furry Animals is extreme enough to give it at least one or two listens and actually, his solo albums have been pretty alright.

I've given the Gallagher brothers' recent efforts a chance and I just can't force myself to care much about them, post-Oasis. (And even then, it's really only the first two albums with a few songs scattered after that.)

Richard Ashcroft continues to release music that I somehow never have enough time to add to any playlists or queues.

I continue to look forward to any project Damon involves himself in. I've seen him live with 3 different projects at this point. (Blur, Gorillaz, The Good the Bad & the Queen.) Same goes for Jarvis Cocker, although he's obviously a lot less prolific. I think they've both continued to soldier on and age quite well and try some different things without embarrassing themselves, moreso than a lot of people from that era/scene whom I love but seem to just reside in "remember me?" territory.
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No way! Oasis was definitely a three-album wonder! (Except the third album was that collection of B-sides from the first two albums.)

There's a moderately amusing YouTube video of Liam Gallagher speaking to a classroom of kids that's more entertaining than his recent album. But he was the highlight at that Ariana Grande post-mass shooting concert, when he showed up and sang "Live Forever." Still "first two albums" territory, alas, but with a contextually emotional twist.

Gruff Rhys put out a song called "I Love EU" (GET it?) that I liked, but most of his solo stuff has been too disco blippy. At one point last year, I listened to the whole of "Radiator" about six times in four days.

Appropos of nothing, really, what's with Pulp's "Cocaine Socialism"? It's one of their best songs, and yet unless I'm missing something, it doesn't appear to be on an album, nor is it on a compilation, nor was it released as a single.

The only other great Pulp song I know of in that netherworld of never-release was "Me Oh Myra."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxNyyZpP3GM&t=0m39s

[CORRECTION: "Cocaine Socialism" is a bonus track on one of the five different versions of the "This is Hardcore" album, but not on the other four. Gee thanks, Jarv.]
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Gruff Rhys' new album is getting some really positive buzz and great reviews from the UK music mags/blogs. You might say "Well yeah, that's what they do". But at this point in his career, he's more of a guy that gets "indie legend, very talented guy, solidly fine new solo album - 7/10" reviews; not "9/10 - a record of its moment"-type reviews.

I take it with a grain of salt, but I'm slightly more curious to hear it now.
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A new (not new) live (not live) Prince album is being released in September.

Piano & A Microphone: 1983 was recorded in Prince's studio, which apparently makes every album ever recorded a live album. The track listing shall be:

1. 17 Days
2. Purple Rain
3. A Case Of You
4. Mary Don’t You Weep (you can hear this one on Spotify already)
5. Strange Relationship
6. International Lover
7. Wednesday
8. Cold Coffee & Cocaine
9. Why The Butterflies

The AV Club writes, "If these tracks are anything like the live rehearsal footage from 1984 Prince’s estate released along with his original recording of “Nothing Compares 2 U” back in April, it’s going to be incredible." That's not really true, either. It would have to be better than those things to be incredible.
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Also, I just found out today that Gruff Rhys' name is pronounced "Griff Reese." If I'd ever heard it spoken aloud in the last 20 years, it made no impression on me. And I think "u" sounding like "short i" would have done that. "Reese" is less peculiar, but I've never thought about it. I think it would have been my second guess after "rice." But knowing the answer has tainted my response.
And now, after this brief flurry of monophthongial enlightenment, I think I could be done thinking about it.
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Well, now I would like to hear your pronunciations of all the Super Furry Animals' song titles that are in Welsh.
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HelloDes wrote:
A new (not new) live (not live) Prince album is being released in September.

Piano & A Microphone: 1983 was recorded in Prince's studio, which apparently makes every album ever recorded a live album. The track listing shall be:

1. 17 Days
2. Purple Rain
3. A Case Of You
4. Mary Don’t You Weep (you can hear this one on Spotify already)
5. Strange Relationship
6. International Lover
7. Wednesday
8. Cold Coffee & Cocaine
9. Why The Butterflies

The AV Club writes, "If these tracks are anything like the live rehearsal footage from 1984 Prince’s estate released along with his original recording of “Nothing Compares 2 U” back in April, it’s going to be incredible." That's not really true, either. It would have to be better than those things to be incredible.


"Mary Don't You Weep" is nice. I actually think this has circulated in bootleg form for some time because I swear I've heard that "A Case of You" cover and an early version of "Strange Relationship" on piano before.
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"Ymaelodi Â'r Ymylon" = "Your Melody of Nylon"

"Gwreiddiau Dwfn/Mawrth Oer Ar y Blaned Neifion" = "Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin Can Be Blamed for Nothing"

"Pan Ddaw'r Wawr = "Panda Wars"

"Nythod Cacwn" = "Nice Hot Corn"

"Dim Brys dim Chwys" = "Do They Know It's Christmas?"

"Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyndrobwllantysiliogogogochynygofod (in Space)" = "Lost in Space"

I may have gotten one of these wrong.
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HelloDes wrote:
"Ymaelodi Â'r Ymylon" = "Your Melody of Nylon"

"Gwreiddiau Dwfn/Mawrth Oer Ar y Blaned Neifion" = "Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin Can Be Blamed for Nothing"

"Pan Ddaw'r Wawr = "Panda Wars"

"Nythod Cacwn" = "Nice Hot Corn"

"Dim Brys dim Chwys" = "Do They Know It's Christmas?"

"Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyndrobwllantysiliogogogochynygofod (in Space)" = "Lost in Space"

I may have gotten one of these wrong.


These are all correct.

Fun fact: my dad worked with a Welshman and somehow he brought up that I was a fan of "some Welsh band". I had the guy translate some SFA songs for me. I don't remember 98% of it!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought my dad worked with a Welshman, but it turned out he had just gotten his tongue caught in some machinery.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a video of Prince doing a solo during "Purple Rain," while making the kinds of faces I imagine he probably also made during his last elevator ride.

https://www.facebook.com/guitarplayerbrasil/videos/1282389851810721/
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